Our reflections about China are perhaps towards an end, but not our memories. Part of our experience was simply being in a very different part of the world with its own history and culture, but also ecologically and its own climate cycles. Among other things, while Minneapolis is at 45 degrees latitude north (almost exactly half way to the north pole), Hong Kong is only 22 degrees north--twice as close to the equator, with a sub-tropical climate and birds and vegetation and (sometimes hugs) trees to match. Here's Barbara with local plants not usually seen in Minnesota!
While southern China doesn't seem to get the kind of "true" monsoon season (with weeks of heavy rains) more common in south and southeast Asia (India, Thailand, and so forth), we did often experience pouring rains (as in the photo below), and we (like local folks) got used to carrying our umbrellas. This was often refreshing, breaking the buildup of warm (or warmer) air heavy with moisture, and dramatic.
On the other hand, daylight was actually less than in Minnesota at this summer solstice time of year. As one gets closer to the equator, the sun is higher, but the days are actually shorter than in latitudes farther north and south; the "midnight sun" happens in Oslo but not in Hong Kong.
As we've noted, we found the metro or subway systems in both Hong Kong and Guangzhou to be great ways to get around--inexpensive, clean, well-organized, quick, and as an added benefit, great for people-watching. People of all ages and backgrounds tend to take the trains (though we were usually the only Westerners in sight). I (Bruce) found them to be the only place where I saw PDA's (public displays of affection) happening, though only among teenage couples, and never (in my experience) kissing, but usually a couple sitting closely, holding hands, or sometimes a boy with his arms around his apparent girlfriend.
There are often shopping areas, even fancy malls, next to or over subway stations, and these seem to draw young people in the later afternoon when schools are getting out and teenage appetites for a snack are once again reaching a peak. The photo below shows one such scene, with groups (often all girls or all boys) grabbing a table, from which they can scope out passers-by and check out who's with whom (my guess!).
This kind of scene might look pretty familiar--the setting, the fast-food (though often the menu is more Chinese than Western), and the Western-style clothing (usually made in China, I think, as is most of our own "Western" clothing--or from elsewhere in south or southeastern Asia). But it struck me how different this scene was from similar ones I experienced in urban India (2014), where it's far more common for schoolgirls to wear some variation on traditional Indian clothing, usually something more colorful and more modest (though Chinese girls are more modest in their clothing than schoolgirls in the U.S., I think).
I sometimes wondered what the lives and hopes of young Chinese people, teen-agers, might be like. I had the impression that education is important, and important for girls as well as boys (based partly on the perhaps superficial sense that there seemed to be as many girls in their school uniforms as boys on the trains and in the shopping areas). But education in China does seem important. The annual "gaokao" exams taken by high school students to determine who will be able to attend university, or postpone college for a year, or be encouraged to find a job rather than study further, were taking place while we were there, the subject of much television news coverage (it's an important but also a very stressful time for the students).
But, too, young people face questions about relationships, and the kind of person they might want to marry, and what relationships are like, and the role of both economic resources and one's personal "looks" in shaping those relationships. In the photo above we see what is likely one vision (in a large advertising poster seen in the subways) of what a modern Chinese woman, and man, would be like--attractive, but also in a rather "Western" way (note the woman's hair style, and the non-Chinese style teapot and teacups). They are slim, and are looking at one another rather than eating the tempting (Western) tea-cakes (she has no food on the fork she is holding). And she is light-skinned (other ads, and whole shops in up-scale malls, are devoted to skin care products which "lighten" or even simply "whiten" one's skin, sometimes promising to change one's life. What do young people do with such things (a dilemma not entirely unlike those faced by teenagers contemplating the dilemmas of changing gender and relationship roles in the U.S.)?
Some (most?) will marry, like the young couple in the photo here. (Note: this was taken when when I was strolling through a park where three or four couples were having their wedding photos taken, while lots of local people passed by and watched the proceedings--I wasn't intruding on an actual wedding here.) Many seem to still live at home with parents until they do marry. Many will likely want to have a child, though while the "one-child" restriction is now being relaxed, the high cost of urban living may still lead many to feel that having just one child is best.
Over the last generation, the one-child policy has meant that grandparents often have only one grandchild--and a grandchild they may share with another set of grandparents. China is in fact aging, as an increasingly well-off population lives longer, but also as fewer children have been born. Yet families are still important, as I saw in several contexts: when wandering about my neighborhood in Guangzhou, where I often saw grandparents taking care of a grandchild, often just a doting grandpa with his grandchild. We see in the photo to the right an extended family in a park in Guangzhou. And I could see it when we had supper with the family of one of the local people we got to know in Guangzhou, in their concerns for a grown daughter who'd moved out without marrying.
What might China be like as it becomes, demographically, more like Japan, with a population that "leans older" rather than younger? Who will help take care of the older, who may also be disproportionately women, as we see in this photo (who seemed to be happily chatting and enjoying one another's company--my impression is that China is still a place where social gatherings are still more gender-defined and homogenous). Note that several of the women are in wheelchairs, and I saw that newly-built facilities like the subways seem to be "accessible" even though few people with physical limits were to be seen there.
I should end here. We'll let you know when we reach the real end of our postings, and if you've read this far, you have our appreciation and thanks!
Bruce
While southern China doesn't seem to get the kind of "true" monsoon season (with weeks of heavy rains) more common in south and southeast Asia (India, Thailand, and so forth), we did often experience pouring rains (as in the photo below), and we (like local folks) got used to carrying our umbrellas. This was often refreshing, breaking the buildup of warm (or warmer) air heavy with moisture, and dramatic.
On the other hand, daylight was actually less than in Minnesota at this summer solstice time of year. As one gets closer to the equator, the sun is higher, but the days are actually shorter than in latitudes farther north and south; the "midnight sun" happens in Oslo but not in Hong Kong.
As we've noted, we found the metro or subway systems in both Hong Kong and Guangzhou to be great ways to get around--inexpensive, clean, well-organized, quick, and as an added benefit, great for people-watching. People of all ages and backgrounds tend to take the trains (though we were usually the only Westerners in sight). I (Bruce) found them to be the only place where I saw PDA's (public displays of affection) happening, though only among teenage couples, and never (in my experience) kissing, but usually a couple sitting closely, holding hands, or sometimes a boy with his arms around his apparent girlfriend.
There are often shopping areas, even fancy malls, next to or over subway stations, and these seem to draw young people in the later afternoon when schools are getting out and teenage appetites for a snack are once again reaching a peak. The photo below shows one such scene, with groups (often all girls or all boys) grabbing a table, from which they can scope out passers-by and check out who's with whom (my guess!).
This kind of scene might look pretty familiar--the setting, the fast-food (though often the menu is more Chinese than Western), and the Western-style clothing (usually made in China, I think, as is most of our own "Western" clothing--or from elsewhere in south or southeastern Asia). But it struck me how different this scene was from similar ones I experienced in urban India (2014), where it's far more common for schoolgirls to wear some variation on traditional Indian clothing, usually something more colorful and more modest (though Chinese girls are more modest in their clothing than schoolgirls in the U.S., I think).
I sometimes wondered what the lives and hopes of young Chinese people, teen-agers, might be like. I had the impression that education is important, and important for girls as well as boys (based partly on the perhaps superficial sense that there seemed to be as many girls in their school uniforms as boys on the trains and in the shopping areas). But education in China does seem important. The annual "gaokao" exams taken by high school students to determine who will be able to attend university, or postpone college for a year, or be encouraged to find a job rather than study further, were taking place while we were there, the subject of much television news coverage (it's an important but also a very stressful time for the students).
But, too, young people face questions about relationships, and the kind of person they might want to marry, and what relationships are like, and the role of both economic resources and one's personal "looks" in shaping those relationships. In the photo above we see what is likely one vision (in a large advertising poster seen in the subways) of what a modern Chinese woman, and man, would be like--attractive, but also in a rather "Western" way (note the woman's hair style, and the non-Chinese style teapot and teacups). They are slim, and are looking at one another rather than eating the tempting (Western) tea-cakes (she has no food on the fork she is holding). And she is light-skinned (other ads, and whole shops in up-scale malls, are devoted to skin care products which "lighten" or even simply "whiten" one's skin, sometimes promising to change one's life. What do young people do with such things (a dilemma not entirely unlike those faced by teenagers contemplating the dilemmas of changing gender and relationship roles in the U.S.)?
Some (most?) will marry, like the young couple in the photo here. (Note: this was taken when when I was strolling through a park where three or four couples were having their wedding photos taken, while lots of local people passed by and watched the proceedings--I wasn't intruding on an actual wedding here.) Many seem to still live at home with parents until they do marry. Many will likely want to have a child, though while the "one-child" restriction is now being relaxed, the high cost of urban living may still lead many to feel that having just one child is best.
Over the last generation, the one-child policy has meant that grandparents often have only one grandchild--and a grandchild they may share with another set of grandparents. China is in fact aging, as an increasingly well-off population lives longer, but also as fewer children have been born. Yet families are still important, as I saw in several contexts: when wandering about my neighborhood in Guangzhou, where I often saw grandparents taking care of a grandchild, often just a doting grandpa with his grandchild. We see in the photo to the right an extended family in a park in Guangzhou. And I could see it when we had supper with the family of one of the local people we got to know in Guangzhou, in their concerns for a grown daughter who'd moved out without marrying.
What might China be like as it becomes, demographically, more like Japan, with a population that "leans older" rather than younger? Who will help take care of the older, who may also be disproportionately women, as we see in this photo (who seemed to be happily chatting and enjoying one another's company--my impression is that China is still a place where social gatherings are still more gender-defined and homogenous). Note that several of the women are in wheelchairs, and I saw that newly-built facilities like the subways seem to be "accessible" even though few people with physical limits were to be seen there.
I should end here. We'll let you know when we reach the real end of our postings, and if you've read this far, you have our appreciation and thanks!
Bruce





































